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Listen: Firewall & Iceberg Podcast No. 189

Dan and Alan talk 'Dexter,' 'Ray Donovan' and Summer Pilot Rewatch


Happy Friday, Boys & Girls!
We really meant to have this second Firewall & Iceberg Podcast installment up earlier in the week, but do to my schedule, time kinda slipped away. Apologies!
In this installment, we review Showtime's "Dexter" and "Ray Donovan," answer a wee bit of mail and discuss this week's Summer Pilot Rewatch double-bill of "The Dick Van Dyke Show" and "The Mary Tyler Moore Show." 
Next week's Summer Pilot Rewatch is a double dose and Sepinwall can add the proper link to this post if he has the time! UPDATE: Alan here! For next week, we're doing "Hill Street Blues" (note: Hulu has placed the first two episodes together as one video, so you can stop around the 48 or 49-minute mark, when the pilot clearly ends) and "The Shield."
Here's today's breakdown:
"Dexter" (00:01:15 - 00:13:00)
"Ray Donovan" (00:13:00 - 00:27:30)
Listener Mail - Best New Shows (00:27:45 - 00:34:55)
Listener Mail - What counts as TV? (00:35:00 - 00:44:40)
Summer Rewatch: "The Dick Van Dyke Show"/"Mary Tyler Moore" (00:44:45 - 01:04:20)

And as always, feel free to e-mail us questions for the podcast.

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New Yorker celebrates gay marriage with Bert & Ernie

New Yorker celebrates gay marriage with Bert & Ernie
Is this week's New Yorker cover "terrible way" to celebrate the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act?

Watch Jon Stewart's bearded "Daily Show" cameo via Skype
"I didn't grow it," Stewart said of the beard. "...When you get off the plane in the Middle East, they give it to you like the Hawaiians give you a lei."

Paula Deen No. 1 on Amazon
Thanks to the N-word controversy, her upcoming book, "Paula Deen's New Testament: 250 Recipes, All Lightened Up," which isn't due out until October, has soared to No. 1. UPDATE: Kmart, Walgreens and Sears drop Paula.

"Arrested Development" is coming out with a Netflix season soundtrack

Both songs and scores from Season 4 will be released, including an expanded version of "Getaway."

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Watch: Nine Inch Nails' 'Came Back Haunted' music video by David Lynch

Watch: Nine Inch Nails' 'Came Back Haunted' music video by David Lynch

Cloudy rooms, seizure warnings

Nine Inch Nails' new music video for "Came Back Haunted" starts with a warning for those who suffer seizures. There should have also been one for those who suffer nightmares.

The David Lynch-directed clip doesn't so much have a story, but hazy, shaky, blurred and disturbing shots of puffy monster faces, negatives of a ghoulish bug, clouds forming in the corners of rooms, and of course Trent Reznor's pale mug pinkly reciting its jagged little lyrics.

It's just what you wanted this comeback effort to be. That whole previous "Lost Highway" collaboration proves Lynch and Reznor make good partners.

"Came Back Haunted" is the lead single from NIN's new album "Hesitation Marks," due Sept. 3 on Columbia. As previously reported, the album features Fleetwood Mac’s Lindsey Buckingham, King Crimson’s Adrian Belew (who had joined the band but only recently exited). Alessandro Cortini, Ilan Rubin and Joshua Eustis round out Reznor's lineup.

Here is the tracklist for "Hesitation Marks":

1. "The Eater of Dreams"
2. "Copy of A"
3. "Came Back Haunted"
4. "Find My Way"
5. "All Time Low"
6. "Disappointed"
7. "Everything"
8. "Satellite"
9. "Various Methods of Escape"
10. "Running"
11. "I Would for You"
12. "In Two"
13. "While I'm Still Here"
14. "Black Noise"

Here are Nine Inch Nails' tour dates:

07/26 - Niigata, Japan @ Fuji Rocks Festival
07/28 - Ansan, South Korea @ Ansan Valley Festival
08/2-4 - Chicago, IL @ Lollapalooza
08/9-11 - San Francisco, CA @ Outside Lands
08/15 - Hasselt, Belgium @ Pukkelpop
08/16 - Biddinghuizen, Holland @ Lowlands Festival
08/18 - Hockenheim, Germany @ Rock 'n' Heim
08/21 - Belfast, Northern Ireland @ Belsonic Festival
08/23 - Leeds, England @ Leeds Festival
08/24 - Paris, France @ Rock en Seine
08/25 - Reading, England @ Reading Festival
08/28 - Milan, Italy @ Mediolanum Forum
08/31 - 09/1 - Philadelphia, PA @ Made in America Festival
09/28 - St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Energy Center
09/30 - Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center
10/01 - St. Louis, MO @ Chaifetz Arena
10/03 - Montreal, QC @ Centre Bell
10/04 - Toronto, ON @ Air Canada Centre
10/05 - Cleveland, OH @ Wolstein Center
10/07 - Auburn Hill, MI @ The Palace of Auburn Hills
10/08 - Pittsburgh, PA @ Petersen Events Center
10/11 - Boston, MA @ TD Garden
10/14 - Brooklyn, NY @ Barclays Center
10/15 - Newark, NJ @ Prudential Center
10/18 - Washington, D.C. @ Verizon Center
10/19 - University Park, PA @ Bryce Jordan Center
10/21 - Raleigh, NC @ PNC Arena
10/22 - Nashville, TN @ Bridgestone Arena
10/24 - Atlanta, GA @ Philips Arena
10/25-27 - Asheville, NC @ Mountain Oasis Electronic Music Summit
10/30 - Sunrise, FL @ BB&T Center
10/31 - Orlando, FL @ Amway Center
11/1-3 - New Orleans, LA @ Voodoo Music Experience
11/05 - San Antonio, TX @ AT&T Center
11/08 - Los Angeles, CA @ Staples Center
11/09 - Phoenix, AZ @ US Airways Center
11/11 - El Paso, TX @ Don Haskins Center
11/13 - Broomfield, CO @ 1st Bank Center
11/15 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint
11/16 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint
11/18 - Portland, OR @ Rose Garden Arena
11/19 - Spokane, WA @ Spokane Arena
11/21 - Vancouver, British Columbia @ Rogers Arena
11/22 - Seattle, WA @ KeyArena
11/24 - Edmonton, AB @ Rexall Place
11/25 - Calgary, AB @ Scotiabank Saddledome

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<p>Channing Tatum and Jamie Foxx in &quot;White House&nbsp;Down&quot;</p>

Channing Tatum and Jamie Foxx in "White House Down"

Credit: Sony Pictures

Tell us what you thought of 'White House Down'

Roland Emmerich's 'Die Hard' rip-off explodes onto screens this weekend

There's a lot of apologizing for Roland Emmerich's "White House Down" going on out there. On one hand, I get it. It's fun. Etc. And I've certainly been an Emmerich apologist in my time. On the other hand, the film is so PAINFULLY derivative and you can only roll your eyes so many times in a film before it just stops being an enjoyable experience, no? I just didn't realize you could get paid for a script that so liberally cribs another ("Die Hard"). Right down to the Beethoven. Noted. Anyway, HitFix's Drew McWeeny is on my side of the line, calling the film "inconsequential summer programming." But let's hear what you have to say about it. Rifle off your thoughts in the comments section below when and if you see the film, and feel free to vote in our poll, too.

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<p>Richard Gant and Timothy Olyphant in &quot;Deadwood.&quot;</p>

Richard Gant and Timothy Olyphant in "Deadwood."

Credit: HBO

'Deadwood' Rewind: Season 3, episode 4: 'Full Faith and Credit'

Seth tries to negotiate a peace between Hostetler and Steve

For the third summer in a row, we're revisiting David Milch's classic revisionist HBO Western "Deadwood," this time discussing the third season.

While I once upon a time posted two separate reviews so people who hadn't watched the whole series would have a safe place to comment, almost no one bothered commenting on the newbie reviews last year, and they've been ditched. If you haven't finished the series, just avoid the comments of this review and you'll be fine.

Thoughts on episode 4, "Full Faith and Credit," coming up just as soon as I have the delightful surprise of meeting your identical twin...

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<p>Rob Brown and Clarke Peters in &quot;Trem&eacute;.&quot;</p>

Rob Brown and Clarke Peters in "Tremé."

Credit: HBO

If I Had An Emmy Ballot 2013: Outstanding Drama Series

A mix of inevitable nominees and brilliant longshots

Part 9 of our journey through the Emmy ballot brings us to the first of the two big series categories: Outstanding Drama Series. As always, Fienberg will attempt to rank the contenders from most likely to least likely to be nominated, throwing in a bunch of preferential wild cards along the way. And, as always, I will pretend that I am an actual Academy member who has a ballot and therefore has to narrow his choices down to six people.

Same rules apply: we are working off of the actual Emmy ballot, so we can't nominate shows that weren't submitted (like "Bunheads"), nor can we reassign a show to what seems a more appropriate category (say, nudging "Enlightened" from comedy to drama).

Dan's exhaustive analysis is here
, and embedded below (click Launch Gallery to see it), and my picks are coming right up.

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'White House Down' director Roland Emmerich talks American symbolism and his thriller's message

'White House Down' director Roland Emmerich talks American symbolism and his thriller's message

'ID4' helmer also discusses how 'Anonymous' recharged his batteries
WASHINGTON, DC - Roland Emmerich is a virtuoso when it comes to wreaking havoc on the White House.
In "Independence Day," he stayed an alien attack on the White House. 
In "2012," he unleashed the apocalypse on it. 
And now, in 2013, he's turning terrorists loose on the White House, but at least he's left the White House with a last line of defense: The President (Jamie Foxx) and an aspiring secret service agent (Channing Tatum). 
As you can tell, the actual White House remains unscathed and, in our discussion at the "White House Down" junket, Emmerich talks about his understanding of the symbolic value of the presidential residence and the seat of executive power. He also discusses the importance of the film's undercurrent of caution regarding the military-industrial complex.
I also asked Emmerich about the impact of finally getting to do his Shakespeare conspiracy thriller passion project "Anonymous" and how it recharged his creative batteries. 
Check out the full interview above, as well as my chat with Foxx and Tatum.

"White House Down" is now in theaters.
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<p>Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy earn every penny they were paid in the new buddy cop movie 'The Heat'</p>

Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy earn every penny they were paid in the new buddy cop movie 'The Heat'

Credit: 20th Century Fox

Review: Bullock and McCarthy fans should find plenty to love in 'The Heat'

All others need not apply

It's an interesting weekend. I can't honestly claim to have enjoyed either "White House Down" or "The Heat," but I would say that in both cases, if you look at the trailer and it looks like something you're interested in, go. You'll absolutely enjoy yourself.

If you want to see Channing Tatum and Jamie Foxx make jokes and play "Die Hard," you'll get your money's worth. And if you think two hours of Melissa McCarthy wringing variations out of the word "fuck" while Sandra Bullock plays a tight-ass sounds hilarious, "The Heat" is going to be your favorite movie this summer.

I would give "The Heat" a truth in advertising award because they are selling you exactly the movie they made. Paul Feig is a very funny man, and working from the script by Katie Dippold, he's made exactly what he set out to make… a buddy cop film with two women in the leads. Nothing more, nothing less. In its own way, it's sort of quietly revolutionary just because they don't dress it up or pretend it's more significant. I know that when I went to go see "Beverly Hills Cop" or "Running Scared" or "Midnight Run" or whatever… what I was buying a ticket for was the combination of the specific comic personas and some gun play and car chases. It's a pretty simple formula, and "The Heat" plays by the rules, start to finish.

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Outstanding Drama Series - Emmy Nomination Preview 2013

Outstanding Drama Series - Emmy Nomination Preview 2013

Can 'Homeland' repeat in a swamped category?
You know how Oscars voters have fudged their Best Picture fields in recent years with nine or 10 nominees? This might be a great year for Emmy voters to contemplate a similar cheat. All six of last year's nominees are eligible again this year and, if you ask my opinion, the *worst* of the shows last season was "Homeland," which happens to be the defending champion and a lock to return. But what does that mean for "House of Cards" or "The Americans" or "Hannibal" or "Rectify" or former nominees like "The Good Wife" or "Dexter"? There are some years I might have predicted a buzz-y show like "Scandal" might have a real shot, but that's pretty much impossible to argue in this field.
Sigh. We need 10 nominees. Or 20.
Check out my full slate of candidates...
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Brian Austin Green joins 'Anger Management' full-time as Charlie Sheen's nemesis

Brian Austin Green joins "Anger Management" full-time as Charlie Sheen's nemesis

Green, who appeared in three episodes last season, will become a series regular on the FX comedy.

Netflix renews "Orange is the New Black" before its series premiere

The prison series from "Weeds" creator Jenji Kohan debuts on July 11.

Alec Baldwin deletes his Twitter account again after tweet meltdown
Baldwin was upset his wife was accused of tweeting during James Gandolfini's funeral.

"Major Crimes" books some classic sitcom stars

Tim Conway will join Marion Ross, Doris Roberts, Ron Glass and Paul Dooley, as well as Paul McCrane, in an episode this season.

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<p>James Franco</p>

James Franco

Credit: AP Photo

James Franco abandons directorial project 'Garden of Last Days'

Actor-director has left the project two weeks before shooting was set to begin

As I was saying the other day, James Franco has a lot going on. As an actor, he's already had four films out this year, others from Sundance and Berlin still awaiting release, while his sixth feature as a director, the William Faulkner adaptation "As I Lay Dying," just premiered at Cannes. He's got an art exhibition on the go in London, and, with his producer's cap on, is currently seeking crowdfunding for three feature-length adaptations of his short stories. Whether you love, loathe or are simply bemused by Franco, you can't accuse him of hiding his light under a bushel. 

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<p>Sure, you can build it, but does anyone really need another 'Terminator' movie?</p>

Sure, you can build it, but does anyone really need another 'Terminator' movie?

Credit: Warner Bros

No one needs another 'Terminator' movie but there's one coming in 2015

Be honest... what more do you need to know?

I'm staring at the same press release that a hundred other websites have either posted or that they're getting ready to post, and I am almost unable to summon up the irritation or the outrage or the interest to write, for what feels like the thousandth time, about another unnecessary "Terminator" sequel.

Laeta Kalogridis and Patrick Lussier, who are attached to write the film, are two of my favorite people in town. And Laeta in particular comes with what I'm sure would be the hearty endorsement of James Cameron himself, which is as close to being anointed the Keeper of the Flame as you can get. I have no doubt that Laeta and Patrick can write a compelling action film set in the the somewhat strangled continuity that has already been established in earlier "Terminator" projects.

And I don't care.

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